A lot of controversy has arised from this mosque that will be placed inside a large community center two blocks away from Ground Zero.

What are your thoughts, and feelings regarding the matter? Keep in mind that just because 911 happened here in the US, it doesn't mean it wasn't a big deal for the other people around the world.

I have no problem with this whatsoever. In fact I think it is a great idea to have this mosque put up in such a close location to Ground Zero.

I'll explain my reasoning later when I've had more rest. What do you guys think of this?

There was already a community there long ago. People in America are so goddamned racist and prejudiced...."they are building the mosque on their conquest"

First off. What? Moslems are not all terrorists.


Second off. WHAT?! 9/11 was NINE years ago.

Oh yeah that actual mosque is like 2 blocks away from the 9/11 grounds..so its not actually on 9/11 ground.

And why must religions/groups always take the responsability for its biggest assholes?

America is a country that was founded on the freedom of speech and Freedom of beliefs.

saying no to building a mosque only based on hatefull and racist feelings is going against the values of America it self .

While I'm not against it for the reasons DB outlined, I do have to admit I'm a bit confused...why build a mosque so close to it? Is there any specific purpose other than "we want to build one at this spot", or is that really it?

Because there is a large moslem community there already. It has been there since long before 9/11.

Oh, well that makes sense.

Yeah, I see nothing wrong with them building it. I mean, if it were literally at the spot where Ground Zero was, yeah, I would understand people being enraged.

But it's two blocks away, so there's no reason to be angry. I say, let them build it, and for the racists and hateful people to shut up.

The Media raised it as a hot topic for nationalist people to be outraged. That mosque will have problems getting built, but I wish it the best of luck. The community deserves it and they're not responsible for 9/11 or whatever, why should they be taking shit for it?

The reason why people [without tact] hate the idea so much is because of the simple racism-fear that there's gonna be a "stealth jihad" instated when the mosque is built. Basically, that good old American racial profiling that states that every Muslim belongs to Al-Qaeda [sic].

The concept of it NOT being built because they're Muslim honestly sickens me.

I could care less. They have every right to build it, so I say leave 'em the hell alone. End of story.

I think, to an extent, that building anything on ground zero would be a little difficult.

Currie beat me to it XD

But yeah, DB, that's what I meant. Ground Zero is sort of like a sacred spot or something now; building over it would be, to many people, a sign that the memory of that tragedy there no longer matters.

Furthermore, the hijackers were of Muslim descent, and for a Mosque to be built where they caused the deaths of several people...that would rub a lot of people the wrong way. Not trying to be racist at all, so I hope that last part didn't seem that way.

Don't worry, I understand. That last part of my post was not my own view on the matter, but rather one I see other people having.

Nonetheless, thanks for letting me know it wasn't aimed at me anyways =)

Also, I agree with you on your whole post. Just because a few people of a particular race do something bad does not mean the whole race as itself are all bad people. Anybody who thinks that is without a doubt a racist and a hateful person with a flimsy argument.

Just a tiny question for clarification, someone wanna explain to the court what "Ground Zero" is so we all know? (especially me, I think I've got the gist of it though)

I think leaving Ground Zero as a fucking pile of rubble is retarded.

And I love New York City and I care for all those who lost their lives. But leaving a giant pile of rubble and not moving on. This is not the American way.

I'm more with Hara on this, that leaving it the way it is is...well, a waste of space. I can understand being a little shaky on it, since it was a pretty horrible incident, but we can't always be tied up by it. There's a time where you gotta move on.

this is jarbled and the country music that is playing is ruining my ability to think properly.

No, it's not Ky.

There are not buried bodies and tombstones at Ground Zero. There is a shitload of rubble. Do you know what it's like to have that in your city? Do you know what it's like to have people come in, "See ground zero" and claim to be mourners?

Forget tourism, I know I hate them, but I really don't like people who come to "see ground zero".

It's not amazing, it's not beautiful. It is a pile of rubble and a constant reminder of what happened NINE years ago. It was a horrible time, yes. It was a rallying cry to arms for America. It united us as a people.

But.

It's depressing. it's horrible to see. What happened to all those plans to rebuild? And yet we are still stuck with rubble. Where are the twin beams of light we were promised? Where are the freedom towers?

Where is all this crap going?

It's not a graveyard. It's a rubble site waiting to be rebuilt.

I never said I wanted commercialism to take over and for there to be a mall built there. All I'm saying is, it's time to move on.

A mall at WTC? Who the fuck would shop there? it's not convenient in the slightest, Ky. We got manhattan mall at 34th. We're fine on malls.

But it's time we rebuilt ground zero into something beautiful.

If anything, a mosque shows how kind, forgiving, and beautiful the human spirit is. I know it's not directly on top of ground zero. But hey, it's just a start to rebuilding our relationships with the moslem people.

I personally... think that the rubble should be removed and that it should be revamped. Make something there, anything. Well maybe not anything but something.

And then somewhere else; make a proper burial/monument/etc to the people of 9/11. Something where people can see the majestic nature of the firemen, the fear of the victims and the devastation of the event. Something to really show feelings instead of just a leftover of the incident.

Or maybe better yet, make the monument on that spot. I don't know. Just, it's wasted space when something could be done with it.

As for the mosque, it's a mosque. So some terrorists blew up the WTC; not everyone is like that. We have crazy ass white people, druggy ass black people and smelly ass brown people yet we all know they're not all like that. Shit. I hate it when people generalize a race or a religion. Not everyone is like that. They should let that place be built. Fuck what happened. These are a people with guts to even suggest doing it; despite what's happened. I say to give them a chance to unite their community that's been there for ages.

It's about moving on, Ky. A lot of people lost things at 9/11, but it doesn't mean we can be hung over it forever. We need to move on.