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PostSubject: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:52 am

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/tokyo-anime-manga-ban-passes/

>My face when you never see panty/stocking again
>My face when almost 95% of all shoujo anime is now considered smut
>My face when this

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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:06 am

>mfw
>every single possible angry face image macro on the internet simultaneously

Although, this is a blessing and a curse. I don't appreciate the censorship, yes, but at least we MIGHT be able to see some original ideas that don't rely on fanservice to get somewhere.

...Or [more likely] terrible family-friendly crap that no one will read.

And hey, who cares if Japan's economy starts going into a landslide and eventually collapses! The children are safe, and that's all that matters...right?

Related stories:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/12/tokyo-anime-fair-before-after/ (Yes, there's that many publishers bailing out on Tokyo Anime Fair in response.)
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/09/kadokawa-to-boycott-tokyo-anime-fair-over-ishihara/
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/mangaka-my-publisher-has-banned-school-uniforms/ (This pisses me off.)
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:15 am

...fuck no. FUCK. NO. GODDAMN IT ALL.

I can't believe this is happening.....
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:20 am

Dante Volkmire wrote:

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/09/kadokawa-to-boycott-tokyo-anime-fair-over-ishihara/


Shit's getting serious.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:22 am

Allen wrote:
>My face when you never see panty/stocking again

OH BABY. <3

*slapped*

In all seriousness, this is... stupid. Like Dante pretty much said, every single possible angry face image macro on the internet simultaneously cannot express how angry/upset this makes me. I just don't get it.

What the fuck, Japan. You guys are worse than America. ;_;

But really, banning school uniforms in manga/anime? The fuck. That doesn't even make sense... @_@

Kadokawa is currently my hero for taking such a huge step in protest. If I were a huge publishing giant, I don't think I'd be able to do that...
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:39 am

Also related:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-12-10/10-manga-publishers-to-boycott-tokyo-anime-fair

That's the exact list of who's boycotting TAF. Look at 'dose names.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:44 am

Chibi Ushiromiya wrote:
Allen wrote:
>My face when you never see panty/stocking again

OH BABY. <3



Unnecessary. I pretty much didn't see your post past this.

As for dat list
well holy shit
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:09 am

Holy fucking shit.

That's just really stupid

I can't think of it passing though, since, y'know, Japanese like their 18+ *hit*
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:13 am

bye bye, yuri..
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:12 am

and farewell Queen's Blade/Strike Witches/Seikon no Qwasar!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


this is truly a victory for ALL OF AMERICA
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:30 am

Guy wrote:
and farewell Queen's Blade/Strike Witches/Seikon no Qwasar!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



oh my god
I lol'd so hard
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:34 am

The Mayans got the date wrong by almost a year.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:23 pm

the end of anime =/= the end of the world come on don't be ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:24 pm

It's a joke/sarcastic comment.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:41 pm

While this is certainly alarming, I think we won't have to worry TOO much. First off, we all know by now that this ban was put forth and supported by a bunch of senior citizen members who are homophobic and prejudiced against anybody who reads manga or watches anime, up to the point where they considered them 'low lives.' Hell, Shintaro Ishihara remarked that gays were 'pitiful' and 'genetically defective' and combined with this bill will probably face serious backlash.

Also, look how it only mentions anime/manga but not real photography or other items. This will probably be called out as well.

Also note that the titles aren't so much 'banned' as they are 'restricted' now - they'll still be sold in 'adult' corners of shops, and while that might decrease sales somewhat, overall people will probably still buy them. Hell, kids might get around it still.

The school uniform ban is the most baffling, and will probably be the most short-lived. I'd say around 80% of manga/anime involves high-school settings and characters, and if they plan on getting rid of that they'll be dealing a serious crippling blow to the anime/manga industry.

Also keep in mind that the law doesn't take effect until July 2011; there is quite an amount of time to deal with, fight, or even possibly overturn it. Keep in mind that anime/manga has become a rather large part of Japan's economy, and has become quite popular in other countries as well. While we've already seen a lot of publishers, mangaka, and other prominent individuals involved boycott events and stand up to the government, there is a small chance other countries might get involved as well due to how popular anime/manga is worldwide (though this chance is small.)

If anything, all this bill has proven is how senile/angry Ishihara and his fellow governers/political figures are, and as you can see there has already been a HUGE outcry against it, as well as a gigantic amount of people fighting against it right away. Even if they cannot do anything about it, the ban WILL cause some devastation to Japan's economy and cause some problems for other countries, leading to the bill being incredibly short-lived, if it even does manage to live that long in light of all the people right now fighting it.

I don't think we'll have to worry. All this has really accomplished was putting a nice big stain on Ishihara and the government's otherwise pretty decent reputation. This ban will probably not last long at all, if it isn't repealed by the time July roles around.

Also, I'm seeing a lot of Sankaku Complex posts here lately...you guys and your crazy NSFW news-sites *DESTROYED*
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:48 pm

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-12-13/tokyo-youth-ordinance-bill-approved-by-committee

According to this article, the bill hasn't exactly passed yet. It was approved by a committee and has a formal vote on Wednesday.

....This is the same bill, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:59 pm

EDIT: Didn't really realize that the issue seems more about mature anime and manga content. I was thinking anime and manga in general. :/

D8<

*undergoes a seizure and froths at the mouth*

Comic theatrics aside, if they're going to make the anime and manga industry come to a screeching halt, the effects could be rippling all across the world considering that anime and manga are popular. I wouldn't mind so much if they censored mature content, but the news of this is just shocking.

Banning one form of media restricts all else. There was a filmmaker or a film staff worker who once said that all media are one.

On the flip side, I'm interested to see what could happen if Tokyo did ban their anime and mangas. Would Korea then step up in their manhwa industry? Would American comics flourish? Or would creative individuals publish their own pseudo-anime and manga?
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:31 am

It's funny how Ishihara is all "oh people think homosexual is okay now in the past it was wrong" when Japanese history has had countless examples of homosexual interactions or instances, even among prominent figures to the point where it was commonplace. Hell, warlord Oda Nobunaga had a male lover who was only 17 named Ranmaru Mori, so it's kinda funny seeing the politicians acting as if it's something new to their country.

And yes Zags, that's the same bill. Also, looking at the opposition and everyone's whole 'whatever' attitude towards it,(with Jump even saying they'll publish it anyways if they think it's good) I don't think we'll have to worry about this one terribly.

It's like one enraged hippie throwing stones at a giant corporation's office building. It's not really accomplishing anything and people are just trying to ignore him.

If it DOES pass, then I will suddenly be a criminal it seems XD
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:01 am

Fun fact: after reading through it a biiit more, it appears that the bill will rely on self-regulation except in "extreme cases" (rape, for example) so basically, it will be up to the studios themselves to decide what they do. (Thus Jump's reaction, and the general "Fuck dis shit" attitude.)
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:33 am

Ahh, so basically it's not so much a law as it is "Hey guys look things over a bit more than normal please okay?" thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:57 am

That's what I'm reading, but leave it to the internet to blow it up to "OMG IT'S THE END OF THE ANIME WORLD" proportions.

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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:54 pm

Then that means nothing will change at all. XD
They'll keep doing it, like a big middle finger to Ishihara.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:03 pm

Well that's rather relieving. <_<

Nobody would be so dumb to provoke an army of otaku from all the world onto themselves... oh wait.
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:28 pm

In other words: typical Sankaku Complex.

I'm really not surprised!
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PostSubject: Re: Are... Are you fucking kidding   Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:12 pm

guy
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